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Main S1000R Boards => Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring Issues => Topic started by: Trashman on April 29, 2014, 08:57:48 PM

Title: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Trashman on April 29, 2014, 08:57:48 PM
I was under the impression that the turn signals were LED, however, I noticed that mine were normal bulbs....

I vaguely remember that some markets don't get the LED's on the base bike, but i figured they would be on a loaded US bike. Did I misread something or did someone make a mistake somewhere?
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: S1rdek on April 29, 2014, 09:23:03 PM
A loaded as you put it should have led's. By that I assume you mean the RS version
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: jej on April 29, 2014, 09:49:21 PM
From what I've noticed, the US bikes don't get the LED indicators. I'm just guessing, but I bet the LED indicators aren't DOT approved.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: S1rdek on April 29, 2014, 09:55:42 PM
So you can send a man to the moon but can't decide if LED's conform to safety standards.
Get rid of Obama  :008:
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Trashman on April 29, 2014, 10:19:03 PM
*Originally Posted by S1rdek [+]
So you can send a man to the moon but can't decide if LED's conform to safety standards.
Get rid of Obama  :008:

Don't get me started. I guess i'll stop by the dealership and confirm this on my way home.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Lowrance on April 29, 2014, 10:34:57 PM
Yep, for some reason the US bikes do not get the LED turn signals.

I bought the OEM LEDs from A&S BMW. $208 including mounting kit. Should arrive in about a week (back order).
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Trashman on April 29, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
*Originally Posted by Lowrance [+]
Yep, for some reason the US bikes do not get the LED turn signals.

I bought the OEM LEDs from A&S BMW. $208 including mounting kit. Should arrive in about a week (back order).
$208  :005: No thanks. I'll look into just replacing the bulbs or maybe getting some flush mounts.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Schlim on April 30, 2014, 02:15:02 AM
I got the LED's from my dealer when I picked up the bike. It makes it look so much nicer that it's worth the money to me.

Schlim66
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: tqmdave on April 30, 2014, 02:22:41 AM
the front LEDs are plug & play.  The rear requires you to cut into the wiring harness (not a big deal) if you don't want to by the harness.  No reprogramming required.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Lowrance on April 30, 2014, 02:36:48 AM
If you don't want to drop the coin for the OEM LEDs there is an option I might have considered had I seen it first.

There was a guy at the Rockstore Sunday on a red S1R. He mounted the RR incandecent rear turn signals up front. Identical style as stock but really short stalks. Looked good.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Ro.nin on April 30, 2014, 04:52:10 AM
I bought a 'fully loaded' bike, including alarm, as well.

North America stupid regulations - the indicators have to be a certain distance apart... I guess the LEDs are too short.

The stock signals have long stalks and look absolutely retarded. Yes, retarded.
It was the first thing I bought. $350, in Canada, including the BMW LED harness...
($60 apiece for the signals...  :005:)

...but, then again, compared to stock, worth EVERY cent...
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: inspirikus on April 30, 2014, 09:02:29 AM
*Originally Posted by Lowrance [+]
If you don't want to drop the coin for the OEM LEDs there is an option I might have considered had I seen it first.

There was a guy at the Rockstore Sunday on a red S1R. He mounted the RR incandecent rear turn signals up front. Identical style as stock but really short stalks. Looked good.

Something like this...
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: tqmdave on April 30, 2014, 02:27:06 PM
BMW stock rear lights will bolt into the front to get rid of the length of the front lights.  You'll just have to do splice into the wires -- a simple mod. 
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Woody146 on September 07, 2015, 01:38:10 PM
*Originally Posted by Lowrance [+]
If you don't want to drop the coin for the OEM LEDs there is an option I might have considered had I seen it first.

There was a guy at the Rockstore Sunday on a red S1R. He mounted the RR incandecent rear turn signals up front. Identical style as stock but really short stalks. Looked good.
That is what my dealer recommended to me when I mentioned the length...he showed me almost all of the bikes use the same signals so it doesn't have to be off an rr
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: DRoss on September 07, 2015, 05:20:00 PM
EBay made in China rear rr signals $16.50 can't tell the difference from OEM. ( I used the reflector and lens from the originals for a perfect match.)
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: RazaS1000R on December 03, 2017, 02:39:29 AM
*Originally Posted by Ro.nin [+]
I bought a 'fully loaded' bike, including alarm, as well.

North America stupid regulations - the indicators have to be a certain distance apart... I guess the LEDs are too short.

The stock signals have long stalks and look absolutely retarded. Yes, retarded.
It was the first thing I bought. $350, in Canada, including the BMW LED harness...
($60 apiece for the signals...  :005:)

...but, then again, compared to stock, worth EVERY cent...

Do you know the part number for the signals and LED harness ... I was told my BMW Toronto that they can't get the LEDs.  If you have the part number, I will ask them if they can order it for me.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: BillB on December 03, 2017, 02:03:33 PM
*Originally Posted by RazaS1000R [+]
Do you know the part number for the signals and LED harness ... I was told my BMW Toronto that they can't get the LEDs.  If you have the part number, I will ask them if they can order it for me.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=0D12-USA-07-2014-K47-BMW-S_1000_R_0D02,_0D12_&diagId=77_0608 (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=0D12-USA-07-2014-K47-BMW-S_1000_R_0D02,_0D12_&diagId=77_0608)

I though I read somewhere that (at least in the US anyway) dealers would no longer sell the LED indicators?
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: RazaS1000R on December 03, 2017, 09:47:39 PM
*Originally Posted by BillB [+]
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=0D12-USA-07-2014-K47-BMW-S_1000_R_0D02,_0D12_&diagId=77_0608 (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=0D12-USA-07-2014-K47-BMW-S_1000_R_0D02,_0D12_&diagId=77_0608)

I though I read somewhere that (at least in the US anyway) dealers would no longer sell the LED indicators?

Thank you for the link.

I will have to make a new friend in Europe who would be nice enough to buy/ship it to me...of course I would pay them first.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: busabim on December 03, 2017, 11:20:03 PM
There are lots of UK ebay sellers who sell the OE part who ship by mail to Canada.

BB
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: SimonUK on December 03, 2017, 11:49:22 PM
You may want to look at KFM-Motorrader.com. They have excellent prices! The only issue is their flat rate shipping of 55 euros to the US, but f you are buying enough (may be group up with a couple of others who want OEM stuff) it works out way cheaper. I bought 6 LED indicators (4 for the wife's GS and 2 to finish my S1kR) and it wokred out a little cheaper than buying for the dealer here in the US. I had to buy a camshaft for my K1300S, I saved over $300 buying it through KFM over the dealer prices listed!!! (list was somewhere around $750, paid around $430 including shipping from KFM).
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: RazaS1000R on December 04, 2017, 06:02:17 PM
*Originally Posted by SimonUK [+]
You may want to look at KFM-Motorrader.com. They have excellent prices! The only issue is their flat rate shipping of 55 euros to the US, but f you are buying enough (may be group up with a couple of others who want OEM stuff) it works out way cheaper. I bought 6 LED indicators (4 for the wife's GS and 2 to finish my S1kR) and it wokred out a little cheaper than buying for the dealer here in the US. I had to buy a camshaft for my K1300S, I saved over $300 buying it through KFM over the dealer prices listed!!! (list was somewhere around $750, paid around $430 including shipping from KFM).

Thank you for the info, I will check it out.

For the S1KR do we need a relay to switch to LED?  And do we really need a harness, can we splice the existing wire with LED wire?
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: SimonUK on December 04, 2017, 06:17:42 PM
With the harness (#77 51 8 551 391) it should just be plug and play with the LED indicators (#63 13 8 522 503).

The front just unplug and remove the 'floppy' indicators. For the rear you will need to remove the lens and reflector and then unplug the 2 wires(each side) and feed the harness back up into the space under the seat. Installation is pretty much the reverse apart from the rear being plugged in (using the new harness)
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: RazaS1000R on December 04, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
Thank you for the clarification!
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: sonethousandr on April 14, 2019, 07:07:52 PM
Do you know if anything needs to be coded for US version? I read on one of the sites that sells these that coding might be needed for LED version.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: SimonUK on April 14, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
The BMW LEDs are no longer legal in the US(thanks the NHTSA), the coding option has been removed from their ISTA program.

I have already checked this out at my dealers who could code it back 2014 when I got my R, but could not code it in 2017 when I got my XR. You could add BMW LEDs, but you would have to put resistors in line.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: sonethousandr on April 14, 2019, 07:45:43 PM
Well LEDs are legal (my R1 lights are fully LED), I am guessing it's the size of those blinkers :) So stupid. A 20k bike had 1999 lighting...
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Meguerra on April 14, 2019, 08:07:37 PM
I put the BMW LED version blinkers on my bike without any coding or resistors and only noticed very slight increase in blinker speed. The fronts are plug and play. The rears will need to be cut and soldered.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: SimonUK on April 14, 2019, 10:37:04 PM
*Originally Posted by Meguerra [+]
I put the BMW LED version blinkers on my bike without any coding or resistors and only noticed very slight increase in blinker speed. The fronts are plug and play. The rears will need to be cut and soldered.

There is a rear harness from BMW that you can use without cutting, but again, you cannot buy the BMW LEDs from a BMW dealer in the USA.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: Meguerra on April 15, 2019, 01:42:01 AM
Got mine on ebay through these guys. Genuine BMW parts. Did the led signals along with the tail tidy from Yoshimura at the same time.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-LED-Blinker-Set-Satz-Turn-Signal-Flasher-S-R-1000-1200-GS-R-S-XR-RnineT/323772898380?hash=item4b625e5c4c:g:SNUAAOSwSypY991B


Yoshimura fender eliminator

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-S1000RR-2010-19-S1000R-2014-19-Fender-Eliminator-Kit-Yoshimura-070BG152001-/153443210701?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: sonethousandr on April 15, 2019, 06:33:39 AM
What year is your bike? From what I am reading here 17+ cannot be coded for these to work.
Title: Re: Stock LED turn signals
Post by: MA413 on April 15, 2019, 06:37:08 PM
i ordered direct from China @ Alibaba.com for a complete set front/back for around $60.  they are great but don't bolt down to taught when mounting as it will obliterate the plastic.  illumination is spot on and plug n' play for the front.  the rears i ordered a Rizoma adaptor harness and snipped the Chinese lights to solder.  i did this to avoid cutting my Beemer wires. also, no coding or hyper flash issues and works as it should.  total, i was in it for $80.