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S1000R - General Chat / Re: Gen1 to Gen2 change
« Last post by The Mattus on Today at 10:33:08 AM »
*Originally Posted by podders [+]
My friend has a Gen 1, I a Gen 2, we swapped bikes and I think, the only differences we could really feel where the fact my bike was 4-5 years newer.

So, seeing as neither are new bikes to buy now, I would conclude a low mileage, well maintained Gen 1 with all the extras will feel nicer than a ropey, neglected Gen 2.

IMHO the Gen 2 paint schemes are far nicer and have more ownership value to them than an extra (on paper) 5BHP...


The newness factor isn't really an issue for me as i'd just buy a decent example of either, currently owning a 2014 Frozen blue gen1 I was more curious to see other people views.
I had originally sold it but it fell through so was just looking around at replacements, Having looked at the usual other naked's in the class I just didn't get along with them, for the the natural progress would either be a gen2 R or a gen 3 RR. As i say i'm not too fussed for new new bikes so the gen 3 R isn't in the running and it hasn't grown on me enough yet to want one. I do prefer the white multicoulered out of the colours that have been available so agree in the colour, the Frozen Blue isn't for everyone.


*Originally Posted by windyrun [+]
I owned a gen 2 for 3.5 years and 12.5k miles. Before buying I road tested a gen 1 extensively. Although a road test of several hours a few times is not the same as owning one I did notice a couple of differences that were important to me. These are my personal observations and may not matter to others or they have different opinions but I offer to you:

1) The gen 1 has a short exhaust that is louder than the gen2 and since its shorter is easier for rider to hear. The gen 2 has a longer and larger exhaust that still sounds good but is not as loud as the gen 1. If you ride a long time this may be a factor for you..

2) The gen 1 bikes that I rode each had noticeably more vibration/buzz in the bars, tank, and seat and pegs. The gen 2 that I tested as well as the one I owned was much smoother and had much less vibration etc. This is partly due to the rubber bushings in between the handle bars and top triple. However, I think there must have been other differences that led to the whole bike feeling a good deal less buzzy.

3) The gen 2 had the new frame from the new (2015) S1000RR and handled much better to my average riding skills.

4) The gen 2 had cornering ABS which I think was lacking from the gen 1.

5) The gen 2 had 5 more hp at 165 (in US spec) not that I could notice realistically.

6) The gen 2 has a down blipper standard which the gen 1 does not have.

There are probably other differences but these I remember best and led me to be very glad I waited for the gen 2 since it provided a much more appealing bike for my preferences.
Hope this is useful to you.
The blipper and cornering ABS are advantageous I guess, the frame is interesting as I had forgotten about that and overlooked from the other changes. Mine being an early Gen 1 I can definitely say there's a fair amount of vibration from both, buzzing hands are annoying after a longish ride so that being an improvement on a gen 2 is worth it for me. The exhaust isn't really an issue as I'd change that anyway, the Gen 2 has much more choice from what I've found. 
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Accessories, Mods and Appearance / Re: Deciding whether to: BrenTune for 2022 S1R
« Last post by Dave1100xx on Today at 02:56:09 AM »
Yes. The idle on the BT flash is nicely lowered.  Also the autotuning is a feature of the Bosch/BMW ECU.  May not be how it works with non/BMW bikes.  I do my own maintenance so I haven't needed to go back to stock flash but that is advisable as the dealer sometimes updates the software.  See the notes on their website.
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Suspension Set-up and Mods / Re: Suspension switch left handle bar switchgear
« Last post by SimonUK on Today at 02:23:24 AM »
given that, the only explanation that I can come up with is a prior owner replaced the left switch with the wrong unit.  :005:

There are sites out there that will tell you the 'build' if you enter your VIN. Other than that I think your best option is a dealer to see what they think.
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S1000R - General Chat / Re: Gen1 to Gen2 change
« Last post by S1000R_USA on Today at 02:20:52 AM »
Later models of the gen 2 appear to have wide-band AF exhaust sensors...  Wide Band sensors have couple extra colored wires under the shielding
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Accessories, Mods and Appearance / Re: Deciding whether to: BrenTune for 2022 S1R
« Last post by Leo167 on Today at 01:01:16 AM »
*Originally Posted by Dave1100xx [+]
I road my bike stock for a month after breaking in my 2022 S1000R to get a feel for the bike.  Loved it stock.  Very nice fueling. Very precise throttle.  Then did a Stage 1 Brentune with stock exhaust.  Bike retunes itself using the new Air-Fuel Targets with the stock wideband O2 sensors very nicely after a few rides.  Very noticeable improvement in midrange.  You can check their website for dyno runs.  Then months later added a full akro and Stage 2 BrenTune (with Temperature Sensor relocation but without their air filter).  After a few days I can say WOW.  14 lbs lighter without the CAT and even bigger improvement in midrange and fuel mileage.  Now I can run the bike much more in the 4-8k range with little or no need to go higher on canyon roads in the Sierras. On a recent 4 day trek there I averaged 42 mpg. As a gage of our pace, wore out Bridgestone S22 rear in 4 days (to wear bars).  The way in which BrenTune works using the Bosch ECU and O2 sensors is truly revolutionary (constantly adjusting the fueling for changing condition including changes in exhaust).  Worth every penny. 

Check out CALIMOTO on YouTube for installation of BrenTune and Full Exhaust.

Thanks... didn't realize thats how BT works, thought it was a static flash that just enriches and leans certain sections throughout the throttle / rpm range (I may of missed it in my reading / watching) Some mid range improvements is really all I'm looking for in stock form... so besides the mid range improvement on the stage 1, assuming the cold idle is also lowered as well as electronically setting the intake + exhaust flapper in the open position or is that only part of stage 2 ? have you ever reverted back to stock for the purpose of dealer visits?
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S1000R - General Chat / Re: Gen1 to Gen2 change
« Last post by windyrun on Today at 12:59:38 AM »
I owned a gen 2 for 3.5 years and 12.5k miles. Before buying I road tested a gen 1 extensively. Although a road test of several hours a few times is not the same as owning one I did notice a couple of differences that were important to me. These are my personal observations and may not matter to others or they have different opinions but I offer to you:

1) The gen 1 has a short exhaust that is louder than the gen2 and since its shorter is easier for rider to hear. The gen 2 has a longer and larger exhaust that still sounds good but is not as loud as the gen 1. If you ride a long time this may be a factor for you..

2) The gen 1 bikes that I rode each had noticeably more vibration/buzz in the bars, tank, and seat and pegs. The gen 2 that I tested as well as the one I owned was much smoother and had much less vibration etc. This is partly due to the rubber bushings in between the handle bars and top triple. However, I think there must have been other differences that led to the whole bike feeling a good deal less buzzy.

3) The gen 2 had the new frame from the new (2015) S1000RR and handled much better to my average riding skills.

4) The gen 2 had cornering ABS which I think was lacking from the gen 1.

5) The gen 2 had 5 more hp at 165 (in US spec) not that I could notice realistically.

6) The gen 2 has a down blipper standard which the gen 1 does not have.

There are probably other differences but these I remember best and led me to be very glad I waited for the gen 2 since it provided a much more appealing bike for my preferences.
Hope this is useful to you.
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Suspension Set-up and Mods / Re: Suspension switch left handle bar switchgear
« Last post by Scrummage on Yesterday at 11:23:56 PM »
Yes that is correct. I have the wire and gold forks. That’s why I can’t understand it.
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Suspension Set-up and Mods / Re: Suspension switch left handle bar switchgear
« Last post by SimonUK on Yesterday at 11:11:30 PM »
Is it obvious you have Electronic Suspension?? I would assume you would have the correct switch if that was the case. Tell-tale signs are gold coloured forks and there should be a wire coming out of the top of the left hand(clutch) fork.
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Suspension Set-up and Mods / Suspension switch left handle bar switchgear
« Last post by Scrummage on Yesterday at 10:22:31 PM »
Hello. I don’t know if this is the right section. But here goes. I have a 2016 s1000r and it doesn’t have the shock absorber symbol on the left handlebar switch gear. It’s just blank. I obviously have the electronic suspension ie road dynamic etc. would just like to No if I bought the left switchgear with suspension switch on it. Is it already programmed into the bike or is it a firmware update. Thanks for any help.
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Parts, Accessories & Clothing For Sale / Motorbike Sat Nav Garmin Zumo 590LM with Lifetime Updateshttps://photo
« Last post by wilko1011 on Yesterday at 08:26:57 PM »

Hi

Great Motorbike Sat Nav unit for sale as bike has now gone, had fitted to my S1000R and made route finding across UK & Europe a doddle.

This unit comes with lifetime updates so you just need to download Garmin Express software and you can keep updated with vey latest maps for life. 

Just updated maps and software to latest versions/updates & had a new rechargeable battery fitted so ready to go.

Comes with all hardware and cables inc a number of different RAM mounts (as well as car kit) etc to mount on your BMW bike (comes with cable to plug directly into your BMW bike accessory port)

Also includes a seperate USB charging port for other devices as part of bike installation/cabling kit.

The Garmin Unit, mounts, cables & bike charging cradle etc are all in superb condition with no damage and perfect working order.

Grab a bargain £245 inc registered signed for delivery



Loads of spec like Bluetooth for music , phones TPMS (sold seperately) also has SD slot for additional music/maps, some basic specs below but search web for more info:

Garmin zumo 590 Features

‣Super bright, glove-friendly 5-inch wide touchscreen display
‣FREE lifetime street-level here mapping for the UK, Ireland, Western and Eastern Europe
‣Turn-by-turn directions with spoken street names
‣Lane Assist/Junction View - indicates the correct lane choice for upcoming turns and exits
‣Garmin Real Directions and PhotoReal junction
‣Rugged design for use in all road and weather conditions - waterproof to IPX7 standards
‣Dual Orientation - view horizontal or vertical depending on your preference
‣Sunlight-readable, UV-resistant display makes it easy to view your screen
‣Bluetooth wireless technology for hands-free calling through your Garmin sat-nav
‣Look up addresses and points of interest
‣MP3 Player; also iPod and iPhone compatible
‣Displays your route, speed limit, current speed, time of arrival, name of current street and it can also display points of interest such as food, fuel and cash machines.
‣Weather and traffic information when connected to a compatible Smartphone.
‣Compatible with tyre pressure monitor sensor and VIRB video recording systems.
‣Compatible with TOPO maps.
‣Built-in Cyclops speed camera database (includes fixed camera locations and mobile hot-spots)






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