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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #20 on: July 20, 2020, 02:15:17 PM
this fits the mold for a re-design in my opinion.  :047:
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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #21 on: July 23, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
When I read this article a couple of days ago, it mentioned that there would be a serious HP increase to keep up with the neighbors. But as mentioned, my 2018 seems to have plenty. Just make sure you have that grip open to the stop and .... :082:

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #22 on: July 24, 2020, 02:21:36 AM
I don't think the new XR with new screen has an increase in power. Same engine.

I think the new s1000r might look a bit different but the only big change will be the screen (like the XR).
The motor is fine. Maybe in a few years when the RR shift cam bugs are worked out they will put it on the R but I see no reason why they would put the motor on another bike and hear complaints about flat spots from a whole other sector of their customer base

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #23 on: July 24, 2020, 08:40:44 AM
*Originally Posted by windyrun [+]
I don't think the new XR with new screen has an increase in power. Same engine.

I think the new s1000r might look a bit different but the only big change will be the screen (like the XR).
The motor is fine. Maybe in a few years when the RR shift cam bugs are worked out they will put it on the R but I see no reason why they would put the motor on another bike and hear complaints about flat spots from a whole other sector of their customer base

The new R will come out with the shift cam engine fitted. It just doesn't make financial sense for BMW to continue making 2, fundamentally same engines.

Wether it comes with the shift cam function enabled as per the RR or with the shift cam functionality removed as per the XR remains to be seen. Gut feeling tells me it will be enabled though.

The reasons why the XR has the shiftcam engine fitted, albeit without the actual shift cam functionality was explained by BMW at the bike show last year.
In the RR the shift cam comes in to produce higher top end power, because the XR isn't a top end power focused bike its not fitted as torque and low end grunt is what is required in that bike.

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #24 on: August 26, 2020, 10:02:51 AM
When can I expect to see the new model being shown?
Will it be this autumn`/winter?

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #25 on: August 26, 2020, 03:53:22 PM
*Originally Posted by VARRAKK [+]
When can I expect to see the new model being shown?
Will it be this autumn`/winter?

Was having a browze at my local dealers (Wollaston in Northants) last week and one of the sales people suggested to expect full details in October..

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #26 on: August 28, 2020, 12:08:20 AM
Will Euro 5 regulations inhibit power and performance increases, as well as see the phasing out of the HP4 engine?

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #27 on: August 28, 2020, 12:56:43 AM
the new RR is Euro 5 compliant and puts out more power than the old model.

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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #28 on: August 28, 2020, 01:54:03 AM
Its going to have the same motor as the 2020 xr; no shift cam (my prediction).  The argument there is it doesn't need top end power so the shift cam is not needed.

It will have the new dash, led lights, and a facelift.

Its like what porsche fans call the "cayman" complex meaning porsche will never let the cayman power/performance match that of the 911.


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Re: So is this really the 2021 model??
Reply #29 on: September 28, 2020, 11:04:20 PM
*Originally Posted by Airsafari87 [+]
The new R will come out with the shift cam engine fitted. It just doesn't make financial sense for BMW to continue making 2, fundamentally same engines.

Wether it comes with the shift cam function enabled as per the RR or with the shift cam functionality removed as per the XR remains to be seen. Gut feeling tells me it will be enabled though.

The reasons why the XR has the shiftcam engine fitted, albeit without the actual shift cam functionality was explained by BMW at the bike show last year.
In the RR the shift cam comes in to produce higher top end power, because the XR isn't a top end power focused bike its not fitted as torque and low end grunt is what is required in that bike.

I can read the German article. It says same engine as XR so no shiftcam. BMW don't want to build a V4 SF competitor.