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Offline MA413

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2019, 12:48:45 AM »
*Originally Posted by beech [+]
Look, I know the grass is always greener ....I too have a much loved K1300S, but I lusted after a S1000R. I kept my K bike and have a wonderful S bike also. A very good combination. Don't dump your K bike, you will be sorry. I have 120,000 miles on the K bike and between the two S bikes about 30,000 miles. They are individuals, each has its own personality.
I wish I could afford another bike.  The K1300S has been on my wish list for years.  I see great reviews on Boob Tubeand there running about 8k for an 09 around these parts.  So damn tempting. :157:
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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2019, 01:12:52 AM »
One can hope...  MCN > BMW teaser video.
But maybe it is just for the S1000XR, which I don't care for.

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2019, 07:58:30 PM »
I saw a Instagram post last night. They claimed BMW will unveil the new S1000 XR and R at upcoming EICMA show.

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2019, 01:16:37 PM »
The new S1000XR has been announced but it doesn't have Shiftcam.  I didn't think it would personally... the reason that the 2019/20 S1000RR got Shiftcam was to match the torque output of the R/XR at lower revs without losing out at the top end.  To modify the RR Shiftcam engine to output about 160hp but give even more torque down low than it does now would take some significant engineering effort I would have thought.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/bmw-s1000xr/

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2019, 02:18:17 PM »
*Originally Posted by Headf0x [+]
The new S1000XR has been announced but it doesn't have Shiftcam.  I didn't think it would personally... the reason that the 2019/20 S1000RR got Shiftcam was to match the torque output of the R/XR at lower revs without losing out at the top end.  To modify the RR Shiftcam engine to output about 160hp but give even more torque down low than it does now would take some significant engineering effort I would have thought.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/bmw-s1000xr/

Still only 163BHP too...I think Id be much less likely to change to a new R if it didnt have a decent hike in power to go with it.

Well find out in 2021 I guess

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2019, 03:27:37 PM »
*Originally Posted by podders [+]
Still only 163BHP too...I think Id be much less likely to change to a new R if it didnt have a decent hike in power to go with it.

Well find out in 2021 I guess
Couldn't agree more, can't lose bragging  rights!

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2019, 06:35:11 PM »
Bragging rights aside of course. For me, the current R has more than enough get up and go for the street. If I was in the market for another naked, the updated version would certainly make my short list. I would even consider trading up my 18' in a couple of years.
Pony bragging rights will most likely go to the Duc Streetfighter.   

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2019, 09:18:34 PM »
I'd personally like to see the R move closer to the RR in performance terms - more like the relationship with Aprilia's RSV4/Tuono setup - the Shiftcam engine would make perfect sense in this regard. If we could also get a similar level of electronic adjustability too - both on DDC and DTC, I'd trade in for sure.

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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2019, 04:23:36 PM »
Well the biggest improvement with the new XR in my opinion, outside of prettying up the headlights a bit is that they finally got rid of the ugly scaffold mounting system for the side bags and introduced some nice integrated panniers.

Strangely, nobody in the media seems to be mentioning this?


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Re: Next S1000R update - new shiftcam engine
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2019, 08:09:37 AM »
I think I agree that the new R wont be shift-cam - the R and MT-10 share similar traits and power - the 200bhp nakeds are in the 16-20k range and I cant see BM dumping their current R pricing point - more adjustable electronic suspension (a la RR), TFT dash and funky redesign around the RR chassis would be cool. I dabbled with the idea of the MT or the XR but couldnt see the point - the Z1000H2 naked looks good but it wont handle or stop as well and comes in at 16k with the right extras and sloppy suspension. Now if Honda do a naked Blade  instead of that limp NSC cb1r that might turn my head.....
« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 08:10:12 AM by nrthrnbkr »

 


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