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SwiftTone
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DDC forks soft vs hard
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September 19, 2018, 07:06:35 AM »
When I switch the suspension from DDC soft to hard, I do not feel the difference in the forks when I bounce the front end. There is a major difference in the rear though.
Can you guys notice a difference when you do the same?
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Jon_Dong
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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September 19, 2018, 08:47:42 AM »
Soft setting on mine is terrible in the corners. The rebound at the rear is bad and feels like it wants buck you off in the corners. Front feels ok though.
I just leave mine in normal as it feels right front and rear. Hard on the rear is not comfortable but fine on the front. Go figure?
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windyrun
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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September 19, 2018, 12:04:05 PM »
I only have Road and Dynamic. I definitely notice a different in rebound (compression also but to lesser extent) when riding over bumps and undulations front and rear.
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nrthrnbkr
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September 19, 2018, 06:38:49 PM »
Picked up great advice on this forum - compromised on pre-load so that DDC still seemed responsive - run in dynamic and ‘normal’ suspension. In loose or damp run in rain (‘soft’ in poor conditions, ‘normal’ in just damp). Even tatoring it (on the road) I’ve not gone for the ‘hard’ option - seems to give good response - not a light rider but just half a dozen turns on front preload and 4 or 5 on the back - tried cranking it all up but didn’t like the response/ride
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Rivets
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September 20, 2018, 12:41:18 PM »
Had my 17 from new for 9 months before I set the static sag (or at least as best as the adjustment range would let me; read from that I'm not jockey sized). It transformed the handling, making front and rear work together instead of against each other. Give it a go, bet you notice a difference
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zombie
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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September 20, 2018, 04:29:17 PM »
I'd be curious to see a table of people's weights and preload settings front/rear for DDC bikes (5 turns from max, etc)... might help others set their bikes up.
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Hyper-Byker
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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November 01, 2018, 09:55:10 PM »
Originally Posted by
SwiftTone
When I switch the suspension from DDC soft to hard, I do not feel the difference in the forks when I bounce the front end. There is a major difference in the rear though.
Can you guys notice a difference when you do the same?
Yep.Mine is exactly that. In fact at a track event in Almeria, Spain recently, it was a nightmare knowing what was right or wrong. Even the suspension specialist at the circuit couldn't help.
Weirdly, though, sometimes I'd bring the bike in and the forks would be tight but most of the time they didn't seem to change when I changed the settings.
When I got to the next service, I even asked the technician to double check the fork electronics because I thought they may be faulty but I got a clean bill of health.
There are no straight answers anywhere. I'm not sure I like the DDC element of this bike after all.
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miles
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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November 01, 2018, 11:43:11 PM »
Originally Posted by
Hyper-Byker
Yep.Mine is exactly that. In fact at a track event in Almeria, Spain recently, it was a nightmare knowing what was right or wrong. Even the suspension specialist at the circuit couldn't help.
Weirdly, though, sometimes I'd bring the bike in and the forks would be tight but most of the time they didn't seem to change when I changed the settings.
When I got to the next service, I even asked the technician to double check the fork electronics because I thought they may be faulty but I got a clean bill of health.
There are no straight answers anywhere. I'm not sure I like the DDC element of this bike after all.
How much do you weigh, and have you set sag as per the manual's instructions?
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zombie
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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November 02, 2018, 03:33:40 PM »
Originally Posted by
Hyper-Byker
I'm not sure I like the DDC element of this bike after all.
I'm positive I wish I'd bought a non-DDC bike... I honestly can't tell any difference from Road to Dynamic on my 2017 (from what I've read here there were more noticeable differences on the pre-2017 soft/med/hard modes)
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Jon_Dong
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Re: DDC forks soft vs hard
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November 02, 2018, 04:23:37 PM »
I have a 16 plate and in road mode, I couldn't tell the difference between soft, normal and hard. Now I'm in dynamic in normal and it feels so much better but I have no idea why. Makes zero sense!!!
I just leave it in that now no matter what the conditions are
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