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Offline hedonist222

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2018, 04:16:36 PM »
*Originally Posted by zombie [+]
Sure, if the OP didn't specifically mention a 2017 bike, which he did...

I don't know what you mean.

My point is the 3 modes and soft is useful.

I can understand people wanting it back.
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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2018, 04:31:54 PM »
*Originally Posted by hedonist222 [+]
I don't know what you mean.

My point is the 3 modes and soft is useful.

I can understand people wanting it back.

I mean that 2017+ bikes do not have hard/soft, they have road/dynamic, which is very unintuitive.

I don't disagree with the OP that they should go back to hard/med/soft again, but I do disagree with his claim that 2017 bikes have hard and soft as suspension settings.

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2018, 06:17:58 PM »
*Originally Posted by zombie [+]
I mean that 2017+ bikes do not have hard/soft, they have road/dynamic, which is very unintuitive.

I don't disagree with the OP that they should go back to hard/med/soft again, but I do disagree with his claim that 2017 bikes have hard and soft as suspension settings.

ahhh ok
I understand you now.
If I am not mistaken, I think models 2018 and on lost the soft.



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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2018, 11:27:26 PM »
*Originally Posted by hedonist222 [+]
ahhh ok
I understand you now.
If I am not mistaken, I think models 2018 and on lost the soft.


S1000R From 2014 to 2016 --> DDC --> Soft / Normal / Hard
S1000R From 2017 + --> DDC --> Road / Dynamic

From what I could see, the Road mode on the 2017+ bike is a mix of the Soft and Normal on previous bike.

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2018, 02:47:21 PM »
My 2 cents: I like the current method. The 2017 and 2018 Road DDC setting is plenty compliant (soft) for riding around town roads that are bumpy and the Dynamic mode is firm enough for sporty riding (except for forks when braking aggressively from high speed but maybe I'm too heavy for the design).

I can't see a need for anything softer than the current Road as its borderline wallowy as it is if you pick up the pace.

I would like to know BMW's thinking for the change...
« Last Edit: July 20, 2018, 02:48:32 PM by windyrun »

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2018, 05:02:49 PM »
My understanding of my 2017 bike is that road mode combines soft and normal in one mode and uses all the sensors to deiced if it should be in "normal mode" or "soft mode" or maybe somewhere in between.

So if you ride on a regular road it will stay in "normal mode", if you get in to an extremely bumpy road it will go in to "soft mode".

Personally i like this setting, and if you think its bad i would rather them improve the raod mode then add soft and normal.

Personally i ride in dynamic mode 90% of the time and only switches to road mode on very bumpy roads and i can really feel the differences then.

*Originally Posted by windyrun [+]
My 2 cents: I like the current method. The 2017 and 2018 Road DDC setting is plenty compliant (soft) for riding around town roads that are bumpy and the Dynamic mode is firm enough for sporty riding (except for forks when braking aggressively from high speed but maybe I'm too heavy for the design).

I can't see a need for anything softer than the current Road as its borderline wallowy as it is if you pick up the pace.

I would like to know BMW's thinking for the change...

Did you tweak your damping? by screwing on the nobs to make it stiffer? I head somewhere that the bike is setup up for a 80 kg rider from factory.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2018, 05:04:23 PM by Tino »

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2018, 05:22:51 PM »
I confess to not adjusting the damping etc. For 90% of my riding the bike works fine. I'm 90Kg so a bit over the top of the design spec.

I am planning on a track day in the future so will consider/adjust suspension then since there will be more aggressive braking (I assume) though I plan on taking it easy as I get to know the bike (and it will be my first track day  :305:   :005:)
« Last Edit: July 20, 2018, 05:24:17 PM by windyrun »

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2018, 05:35:16 PM »
The only way to adjust the damping on our bikes is via the electronics(soft/normal/hard or road/dynamic). The 'knobs' that you are referring to only adjust the spring pre-load to try to keep the shock/fork in it's 'sweet' spot (depending on the load the bike is carrying).

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2018, 05:52:32 PM »
Good to know. thx

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Re: Petition BMW to bring back "normal" DDC mode
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2018, 08:57:05 PM »
I've only ridden the 2017 model which I bought as I loved the ride. I usually ride in road mode but change to dynamic when I ride more aggressively, as others have commented the bike wallows in road mode when you change direction quickly or you're on a bumpy road. For information the 2017 cannot be setup for track use in standard trim as the DDC allows for the changes required to the suspension. I took my bike to a racing team to setup the SAG etc and all they could change were my tyre pressures. I hope this information helps.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2018, 09:26:35 PM by Leighton1271 »

 


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